Solving the Rental Management Puzzle for Independent Landlords with Ryan Barone

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We have Ryan Barone with me here today with

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RentRedi.com, and I'll make sure to have that link directly in the

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show notes. Ryan, I really appreciate your time. And

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for full disclosure, Ryan and RentRedi has

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advertised on the podcast in the past. And because of

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that, I always check things out prior. So I was using the application,

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and it's great. So I have stuck with it for

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Jeepers. I bet you I've been on that for I gotta be closing in on

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a couple years now, a year and a half moving from

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apartments.com/cozy, which

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was frankly becoming a bit of a nightmare, Ryan. I

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appreciate the app that you've developed. Hi. I

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appreciate you having me on excited that you've been using it for so long

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now. I try to find efficiencies everywhere I can,

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And I want to push as much of that off

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wherever I can, including, on the technology size and managing

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the rental properties. When it comes to ease of use, I

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just frankly, I don't know. And I'm not just blowing

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smoke, and I don't know if you really have a rival right now.

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I appreciate that. Honestly, a lot of credit to the people on the platform, a

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lot of the independent landlords and tenants that have been on the platform because

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Our approach for building it since day 1 has pretty much been give

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us the the problems you face, the ideas you think could fix them,

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and We'll go try to build it and make it forward for everybody. I'm really

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happy to hear you say that. I act I actually have to start things off.

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You're a fellow young guy. This would have been a project you would have started

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when you were still in college, if not coming out. Yeah. What

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caused you to typically, a rental

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Management platform would wouldn't be on a college kid's

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radar. It it wasn't, honestly. It wasn't on my radar.

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What was on my radar was honestly just being I did get my 1st

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internship. I was going to school here in New York City, and, I was

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excited to move into my 1st apartment. Move out of dorms, get my 1st

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apartment. And, I realized I was definitely not ready to

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rent that carpet. I've, there were a lot of documents I needed to get together

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to apply. And so initially, I was just developing an

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app for myself and friends to apply the units more easily.

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And what I quickly realized Was that the independent landlords

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that I just so happen to be interacting with came to me and said, hey.

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Our side is just as bad, if not worse. Can you make our side

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better so that it's easier for us, not just for you? And

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so at that point was where it it Pivoted to being both sides and, really,

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honestly, to the landlord first, and then they make a a better experience for

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their own tenant as a result of adopting RentRedi. And beyond

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that, over the past 6 or 7 years now, it's been this constant

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discussion. Pretty much everything on the platform today Comes from at

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least 1 landlord story, if not multiple stories around

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a problem they were having and a solution we could implement such that

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we became not just for applying to apartments, but

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actually syndicating that out to different places and prequalifying

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tenants and Signing your lease and collecting all of your rent on the platform and

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how you streamline and manage all that. So, basically, we ended up becoming this

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this end to end management platform, but, really, it's it Started with just

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how can I solve my own problems so that it's easier for me to rent,

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and then how can I solve the problems of the people that I knew personally

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because I was meeting these independent landlords and saying, how can it be better for

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both of us, everybody involved? Now that you've been doing this, How long

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has the platform been up? About 2019? 7 years now.

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6 or 7 years now? So with all of that, have you started doing any

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investing yourself? I have been totally focused on the

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management side of things, so I've been totally focused on building the

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platform, helping other landlords at this point. That's completely

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understandable. I can imagine that the way as as

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quickly as you're trying to reiterate this platform,

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It's probably consuming a lot of time. How big is your team now? So we're

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about 30 on the team today. Okay. And you manage how many

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units on your platform? So we have over a

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150,000 units over $12,000,000,000 in assets under

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management on the platform today. Did you find any kind of

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turning point that anything that happened within the industry that you

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saw an influx of users? Yeah. I think there there's definitely

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been multiple points where we've seen influx of users.

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One, honestly, actually, was during COVID even. At the very beginning, it

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was the opposite. But then after maybe that 1st month or

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so, one thing we started seeing was that a lot of independent

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investors who previously had managed everything on Pen and paper and

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spreadsheets started saying, hey. I don't want to collect a

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check or come to your house and get cashed in the middle of COVID. I've

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been thinking about maybe Adopting some sort of digital payments

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platform to make it easier for me to collect rent. And so we did see

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a lot of people start to Really take that leap and

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say, I'm gonna streamline it for both ends. And it ended up making it a

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lot easier for them because instead of driving someone's house to get

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cash Or having them mail a check. They were instantly having that

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update in terms of a tracking perspective when a tenant pays and

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Being able to just have that be automated in terms of late fees and payments

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and all of that. That's been a big part of it, and even honestly out

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of that has come features we had during COVID. On that same payment side

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of things, landlords at tenants say, hey. Could you

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encourage my tenants to pay on time? Or on the flip side of that tenant

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saying, Can you make it easier or or give me some sort of benefit for

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paying on time? And during that same time period, based on that

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feedback we got, we actually built the ability to Report tenants

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on time payments to credit bureaus so that they build the credit by paying rent

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on time. So I think some of those that was definitely a big influx period

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for us, and and even From that, it's helped develop the product further and add

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more things to to help both parties. It's curious as regarding the

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whole entrepreneur mindset. You came right out of college like

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this. Was this natural? Are you typically surrounded by

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entrepreneurs in your family or in your life that made you feel like you

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you could go for it? Yeah. I am. I I I

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have a very strong belief that having a support system that tells

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you go for it is really important. I definitely had that.

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I, originally, when I graduated college, I was working on RentRedi on the side. Not

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too different than a lot of the independent investors on our platform that have a

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9 to 5, and Their properties are they're moonlight, gee. It's what they're doing

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to put a kit their car or make a little extra money. For me, it

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was I was working full time at PwC, I was working on RentRedi

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at at night, basically. And when I told my parents, hey. I

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think I'm, you know, gonna leave, and I'm gonna try to do this full time

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and Turn this into really something that helped a lot of people. Not only were

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they excited for me, and they told me that cheers to all of it that

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night, but also my dad joined me in And he and I have been actually

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building RentRedi for the past 6 years together. It's been

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really exciting to do together, but I it certainly means a lot. It's all it

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means a lot for someone to say, We support you. We think you should go

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for it. It has meant even more to say, not only that, but also I

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wanna do it with you. We do it together. So it's been great.

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As a business owner, there's always something that keeps you up at night. What has

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been the biggest stumbling block getting this platform moving

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so far? That's a good question. I think in the

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very early days, it was trying to figure out what's the right way to do

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it. There's so many different ways to manage your property, Especially, I wanted

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something that could help anybody no matter what size they are

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or what state they're in. We have landlords managing across all 50 states at this

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point. Some are in Rural areas, some are in metropolitan areas. I I

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really wanted something that was flexible enough to serve any

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size or any area so that someone I have to feel like, oh, because I'm

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not in the right area because I'm not the sat right side of the kit,

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use this. So I think in the very early days of us trying to figure

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out how do we get The perfect thing, what I came to realize

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was getting the perfect thing is not the right way to go about it, but

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getting feedback on what the best way that The

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crowd the wisdom of the crowd believes is to implement that

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and try to implement it and see how it works has been really successful for

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us in terms of Taking that feedback, building something,

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measuring, learning from it, and and iterating on that. I think that was probably one

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of the early stumbling blocks. But, honestly, now it's become a

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Core process for how we build anything in terms of

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anything we're trying to improve or add to the platform, how we should do it,

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how we should avoid it and just using that customer feedback and that

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iteration to make it better and better every day. One one of the things that

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I think is interesting about your platform is that there's a lot of integrations

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with third parties. Where do you draw the line as

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to where a 3rd party needs to be incorporated or when

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you add it as part of your functionality. And and did

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you take a moment and define your core feature set, and then

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that's what you're sticking to, or how did that look? Yeah. It's a great question.

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So the approach that we've taken in it is has been

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Hearing the the feedback that we get from our own customer, that's really where it

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starts even for those partnerships. If I take our maintenance coordination, for example,

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company, Lacto, that we partnered with there. That came actually similarly out

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of during COVID times. We had some, independent investors, some

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landlords coming to us saying, I don't want to do my maintenance myself,

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but I also don't have a teammate that I wanna add into the platform because

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you can add teammates if you already have somebody. Could you

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basically help me with if a maintenance request comes

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through, do you handle finding the right person and coordinating

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and the process for us initially was, does anybody out there do this and do

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they do it well? That's really our 1st step with a lot of these partnerships.

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Is there someone out there that does it Already, Mint does a good job of

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it. And if there is, then great. Let's partner with them and and integrate them,

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which was the answer in the case of Lateral. In other cases, if

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we talk to people and find that there isn't necessarily

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something out there that serves that need, we'll build it in house.

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If it's something that we feel can really help independent landlords

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manage their property or tenants to be more happy living in that

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property of that independent landlord. And so

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Essentially, if it falls under that category, it's something we consider whether we

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build or partner really just depends on if we can find someone out there that

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is doing it really well. If they are, then awesome. Let's partner with them,

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add them into the platform. In a lot of in a lot of cases, we

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can make it more seamless for them too because, even ex for

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example, with Latchl, we were able to streamline all of the

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onboardings from your perspective, enabling it. You're just Turning

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this thing on. And we handle creating all your properties and sending all

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your tenants over and syncing all of that information and everything like that. That's been

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an approach for us is trying to say, can we simplify it even if we

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do partner with somebody? If you don't mind me asking, what

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mechanism is in place for you to take those, those

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feedback from your landlords and your users so that you

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and and how do you measure prioritization? Yeah. I don't mind

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it at all. We've had live chat on the platform since day 1. Myself

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and Ed Parshare, we're doing it For the

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1st 2 or 3 years ourselves. So you wrote into the chat, you were talking

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to us directly, and our feedback loop initially

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was You wrote into us a chat, and,

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basically, he and I were talking. I was developing platform for the 1st couple

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years, And then we're building into the platform. We've grown a lot since then to

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a team of over 30, but that same idea still stands. So you

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might not be interacting directly with us in live chat, but you have somebody

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in live chat on the RentRedi team that understands

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either managing properties or renting in those properties, And they

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can basically provide that feedback to our team, either

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to one of our product managers or development team to basically say this is what

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I'm hearing. As we collect more and more of that, we start to understand, okay,

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the way that Jack would do this in his property in maybe Massachusetts versus the

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way that Ryan would do this in a property in Texas. How can we make

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this work for both of them? What does this look like? And then in some

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cases, we may even actually reach back out to those individual landlords if they're

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open to it and say, hey. This is Basically, what we've designed is what we're

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thinking of doing. Would this work for you? Would would you change anything in

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this? Would this be helpful? And, basically, that's then how we

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then go to develop it and release it and share it out. And we keep

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that tagged too. We could pull up in in the system over time, and I

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know there's a lot of A landlords on the platform that have been with us

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for quite a few years now that probably could tell you from their side. I

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was one of them that suggested that or that it be this certain way. I

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think it's an Exciting thing that it feels like we're building it all together. Has

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there been any requests that you've received that have surprised you? That's a

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good question. There's definitely been requests I didn't Anticipate.

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Right? 1 was, for example, in Texas.

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We had a landlord in Texas that called up On Friday night

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and said, hey. Unfortunately, I'm going through an eviction proceeding. And in my

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particular area, if they pay $1, it resets the eviction

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clock. So can you allow me to block partial payments by tenant? And this

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was a little bit earlier on. And so, basically, we

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did not anticipate you needing to either block partial or

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entirely blocked payments for just 1 tenant on the

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platform, because maybe you wanna get a certified check for them if you're going into

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a a legal proceeding. And so we did build that, pretty much

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overnight for that landlord so that they could have it. We released it to everybody,

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so everyone has this part of the platform still today. But that was definitely one

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where We didn't necessarily anticipate needing something, but that feedback

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led to knowing what we needed to do, how we needed to do it, in

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terms of answering the question, should you allow us on Tenant basis or unit

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basis or property. And so honestly, that type of feedback really

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does. It makes it that you don't have to necessarily know every answer yourself.

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You happy, like, to listen to the people that that have problems and have

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a solution for it and then implement what they share with you. Just to remind

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everybody, we're talking to Ryan Barone with Rent at ready.com.

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Click that link in the show notes to head over there. And if you like

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what you hear so far, why don't you do us a quick favor and share

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it with one of your investor friends? So, Ryan,

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I'm curious regarding your on the entrepreneurship

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aspect of this. Since you've been in this now for 6, 7 years,

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You've probably have learned a ton of lessons. And even though we might not be

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in the similar type of business, you're doing a

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SAS product versus us doing rental properties and

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what have you. I'm sure that there's some cross pollination

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with some of the lessons you've learned on how to be an entrepreneur. Is

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there any lessons that you can share? Definitely. One of them

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that's One of my favorites is honestly just to get

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started. I think this I I've seen this both from the

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entrepreneurship perspective with software business, and I've

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also seen it even with independent investors we work with. It gets really easy to

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get stuck in that analysis paralysis stage of how do I

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find the perfect thing, analyze the perfect thing, build the perfect thing, whatever it

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is that you're trying to do. It gets really easy to get Stuck in that

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stage or feel like you have to have the perfect plan. In most cases, you

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need a plan, but you don't need the perfect plan. You need a good enough

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plan to get started and to be able to be flexible enough to change as

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you get more feedback from whoever your customer is or whoever,

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the person Buying your product or service or renting your unit might be. But

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in a lot of cases, being able to have a a good enough plan, open

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ears, and and just Start working on it can honestly get you a lot

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further, a lot faster than necessarily waiting for that, that perfect plan

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or perfect deal or whatever it might be. I can't stress that enough,

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especially when it comes to investing. There is a level. It

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seems if we could somehow measure it, there's a much higher percentage of

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people stuck in analysis paralysis than any other industry

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that I've run into. Yeah. I totally agree with you. I think more

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people Don't reach their goal because they don't start. Then

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people had started and then didn't have enough a good enough plan

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to reach their goal. So I I really do think getting out of that

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stage as quickly as you can is is

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better. You can always learn along the way, and certainly, I have

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Continue to. With as many investors using

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your platform as you have, I'm sure. Do you have any

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insights? Have you been able to collect reports or

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industry information that you could maybe share that

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kind of. Stoods out regarding trends or anything like

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that. We actually do. So there's the company,

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Shandon Economics, which is a a real estate economic research firm

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that we partnered with. And, basically, we release a a once a month

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report on, overall rent collection across the US to give an

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idea of what that looks like for the independent landlord segment.

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And it's been really helpful. We've had, landlords

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that have told us it's been helpful for them to understand, Like, how things are

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going in their particular an area they want to invest in. We've also even

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seen some interest on the policy level. It's one of those things where There's not

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a a ton of policy that's made, unfortunately, for this independent

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investor market or independent landlord market. And part of that is because

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Everyone on pet insurance don't happening, and so it's hard to make regulation around that.

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We've seen some interest even in that report just from the aspect of understanding

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how, for example, COVID impacted Independent landlords as opposed to maybe

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massive property management companies or or mid level property management

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companies. And it's one of those that I I hope we'll be able to do

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more of in the future. I really hope it'll help both the investors on the

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platform or those getting started on the platform, as well as just

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Overarching group across the US with more macro

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perspective of those reports. Going back to the third party integrations that

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we were chatting about. Are there any upcoming integrations or

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improvements that you have planned that you could share with us. There are

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definitely some big big updates Coming, I think probably the most recent

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one that came out was that we did a big partnership with Bigger Pockets. And

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basically that now anybody that is Already a pro member on there

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becomes 1 on there. Could basically just link over into RentRedi

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included. So that was a huge one for us. Biggerpox has

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honestly been one that we've talked to for a long time. We've known the team

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over there for years, but to actually get that, level of kind of

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endorsement in terms of Them supporting us and vice versa, partnering

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with them, I think has been a a big integration on the platform. It's it

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definitely excited a lot of people in terms of Being able to connect

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those 2. Yep. May maybe I'm missing some of the integration features

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as well. So I'd I'd be curious. Do you have

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Some like Zapier or any Asana, any of those

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type of integrations currently or planned?

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We don't currently do a Zapier one on the more Asana task

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management side. We do have tasks built into the platform, So landlords

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can add any tasks that they have for themselves or teammates and share with

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those, but not yet. Maybe it's one that should be on the list, though. I

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like it. Yeah. I had to put you on the spot for a second.

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So, you know, with we chatted a little bit about all of these

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aspects regarding the integration and the third parties and everything

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else. But one of the things that I have noticed with

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my tenants is having that app

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on their phone has been a big change.

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Like a lot of the other platforms don't just have a standard

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phone app that Right. Especially in my I have

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properties in the rural communities. This has been a actually a pretty

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big selling point for most. If

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if when it comes to landlords versus tenants, have you

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seen, like, a pretty big swing, especially when it comes to adoption?

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Yeah. I I think a lot of people are are similar to yourselves in terms

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of liking the that mobile app. And and it's funny. That was where

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I initially, when I was developing it for myself, I started with just a mobile

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app for myself and friends. And so it was looking at it even from the

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perspective of what would I want to use, what would be easiest for me to

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interact with things I need to do with the language. So I I think you're

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you're definitely not alone there. There's quite a few, on the platform that I've

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expressed that's a a huge benefit for them in Terms of

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the easier it is for a tenant to pay rent on the platform or sign

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their lease or submit the application to just get through the pipelines being able

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to rent unit be a good tenant for you, the better. So,

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that, the ease of use is definitely a piece of importance

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for us. And I think you're definitely right. The the mobile app, Especially in

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certain communities, especially today, you may be more likely to have a

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smartphone than you do a home computer at this point. So Being able to

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just meet people where wherever they are, if they have only a smartphone,

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no problem. You can still do everything you need to do there. You don't necessarily

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have to go get a hold of a computer in order to Pay your rent

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or do whatever else you're you need to do for that unit. Is there a

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feature in your platform that that people might be surprised

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that is included? I think one that I I haven't

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mentioned and they might be surprised about is honestly on the accounting side of

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things. So that was another integration, another partnership that we did.

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It's been really, really successful in terms of people being excited

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about having it, using it, continuing to to use it. Basically, we

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partnered with a a company, REI Hub, that Does, landlord

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accounting basically, we sync all of your we we were already collecting all

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of your revenue data for the rent that you collect. So being able to sync

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all of that, all of your properties, everything over to there and be able to

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actually connect the 2 platforms so you can come into RentRedi. And from

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RentRedi, access any of these the things you need on the accounting side of things.

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It's been a huge help for a lot of landlords because they can get P

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and L by property, for example, right out of the box from enabling this rather

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than if you were doing it in even in QuickBooks. You typically are setting up

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sub jobs to basically be able to get that P and L by property or

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by unit. So I think that's maybe one that I

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I don't necessarily talk as often about right off the bat, but I

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think it's one that a lot of people get very excited about once they try

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it out. I I can imagine that being the case when it comes to any

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kind of accounting and taxes and and anything for that

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matter, Any path of least resistance is welcomed. I

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just wanna remind everybody one last time, rentredi.com. We've

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only scratched the tip of the iceberg regarding the functionality

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in Ryan's, application there. So again, it's

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rentredi.com so you can get a detailed list of

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what this is available. And I think with

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I I even have a, affiliate link that I I probably

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include. So, to take advantage of whatever promotion that

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is being run at the moment. But, with that, Ryan,

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I warned you the the rapid fire questions were coming. Are you ready for

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them? I'm ready for them. Let's do it. I'm I'm gonna open

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this a little broader for you because not being directly involved in

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rental properties. I'd be curious if there is a business

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or real estate myth you'd like to bust here today.

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Yeah. I I think I would choose a a real estate and

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technology one that cross over, which would be honestly that

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you have to be a certain size or in a certain placed to be able

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to have technology make it easier to either manage or rent

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a property. Yeah. I think with technology, there's this feeling that

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once you get to X amount of units or X amount of doors or

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whatever it might be. Then you can use this thing that will help you.

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And even in, in our particular case, but certainly in others In

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the space. There's a lot of technology out there that can help you even if

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you have 1 single family unit, regardless of where you are in the

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country that you wanna manage and make easier for yourself. I can't

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agree more. In fact, it's surprising that especially

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investors such as the people that I work with,

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the amount of time that they will spend evaluating a property

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and and assessing the return on investment. But then they don't take a

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moment and just think about that return that can be

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garnered through a software

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or whatever. Every, everything can be justified through an ROI.

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Just Mhmm. Take a second. Do you have a book recommendation

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or what are you reading right now? I do have a book recommendation. Mine

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would be 0 to 1. It's one of my favorites. I go back to it

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all the time. I think it's a great book. I'll have to check that one

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out. I think I actually have it in my audible library. I just haven't queued

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it up yet. I love it. So every time somebody's on my

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show, I add another book to my Audible library. And I I don't know if,

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at this point, if I have enough time left in my life to listen to

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all. You need the the double speed. It's the only way to get

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through it all. So have you ever heard of that Blinkist? I think there's

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apps now that will summarize the books for you. I have. I've heard of

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it. It seems interesting. I haven't tried it myself yet, though. Yeah. I

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haven't tried it. It's but I can understand why people would use it.

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What is your biggest business mistake you've made, and what did you learn from it?

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I think that one would probably be going back to the just start. I think

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the biggest mistake I made was trying to build Something that was

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perfect before I let anybody use it. And what I really found was that once

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I let people start to use it, I got back

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far more Feedback ideas than I possibly

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could have gotten without it. And I I think the same thing applies to almost

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any business that the more that you can Garter any sort of

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feedback or put something out there and and start to get some

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response on the better. So I think that's been one of the big ones for

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me is just In terms of starting and collecting that feedback and iterating

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on it. If you could go back in time and give your younger self one

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piece of advice, what would that be? I think it would be Implementing

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the we this method of build, measure, learn, which actually comes from 0 to 1,

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is one that's been really successful. Using that from the beginning would

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be, I think really helpful, and I think it applies to anything you do

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even outside of business, just in life. But in terms of learning from

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something, Putting it into action in any sort of way,

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measuring the impact of that. Did it work? Did artwork? Why? Learn that

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again And and repeat that process. It can be really successful in terms

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of ultimately getting to wherever you wanna go, whether it's

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manager Software business or properties or play guitar

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or anything. You have 60 seconds, and you're gonna give everybody 1 piece

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of advice they can implement today to make a impact on their business.

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What would it be? I I think the the biggest one would be would

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actually be that build, measure, learn. It seems so simple, But if you but

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even before you as you are building, think about how am I going to

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measure this? What does success look like for me if I'm fast forwarding 6 months

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or a year from now? How will I look back and say, I did it,

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smile, be happy, whatever it is to help me get to that point,

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defining that measurement, Then implementing something and starting to see,

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am I making progress towards that goal, or do I do believe that's right? Is

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there anything I can learn from what I've done so far? And then

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iterating on that as I go. I I think it can really apply to

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truly anything you do, and I think it certainly helped me a

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lot. Definitely stealing from 0 to 1 in that in that respect,

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but I really do think it helps no matter what you're trying to accomplish.

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That's the whole point of this show is one of the our taglines is

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you can either put in the 10000 hours and become an become an

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expert or learn from somebody who's already made that investment. And that's exactly what

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you're doing in that situation. So, Ryan, this has been a great

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But is there a question or concept you wish we would have covered here today?

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The only one that I will ask is your landlord using

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RentRedi yourself. What would be your suggestion? Or

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the I we've talked a lot about things we build into the platform over time

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based on the feedback of independent investors on the platform and Things

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they have. What would be your what would be your top ask or your top

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suggestion of something you don't have today, but you'd love to see in the future?

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You put me on the spot, but I go back earlier. I think one of

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my questions actually foreshadowed one of the things I would

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ask is the, like the Zapier integration

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of some kind so that I can, but you're talking to, I I don't

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know if I can classify myself as a traditional landlord in

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in the fact that I'm a bit of a nerd. So that type of

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stuff doesn't scare me off like it might for others. I

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don't I don't see that as a low bar of entry. Definitely for me. I'm

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gonna do some of that, that type of thing. The other thing, anything

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else would be something I probably would share with you

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outside of the recording. I like it.

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So I really appreciate your time, Ryan. Again, it is

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rentredi.com that is ready with an I,

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I'll make sure to have that as a clickable link in the show notes, but

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thanks for your time, Ryan. Thanks again for having me.